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March 17, 2014


Karen in Ohio

I like your Downton rape scenario ever so much better than the sappy and insipid one Fellowes wrote. Much more dramatic potential.

Janet Lomba

Sandra / Hank
I enjoy Downton Abbey immensely, but I agree that Julian Fellowes has missed the mark in "the rape" storyline. I think that Bate's would never have let Anna "get away" with the lying. He saw right through her, and knew that something else was going on from the beginning. As far as the upstairs is concerned, I think that it would have been kept quiet, as it was a "downstairs" situation. Be that as it may, if an "upstairs" person had committed the rape, I believe they would have tried to get rid of Anna and Bates. Either by pensioning them off, or finding them other work - Except that Mary would have stepped in as would her sister, to not have Anna punished for the crime someone else committed.

Whatever was done, it wasn't handled well as a story line in this Series at all.

Hank Phillippi Ryan

But we certainly did watch it, huh? I'd love to know what the rationale was for handling it that way, though..it felt "off" from the beginning. But maybe historically it's more reasonable?

But Sandy's plot is quite wonderful.. ANd clearly we will all keep watching!

(Next, Game of Thrones..)

Kate Gallison

You ought to be writing this stuff, Sandra. I quite agree with your analysis. The whole of series whatever-it-was was full of pulled punches. Thomas has been somehow turned to cardboard, for example. And the bandleader gave up without a struggle. He was much too nice a guy. He should have smoldered. And so forth.

Sandra Parshall

I've read that some viewers in Britain objected to the rape story because it was too raw and didn't fit with the gentle tone and slow pace of the series. Those viewers don't want more conflict and would not endorse my scenario at all!

We've seen the lengths Lord Grantham went to just to save the Prince of Wales, a notorious womanizer, from a little embarrassment. I think that even if Mary wanted to expose Bates for killing the rapist, her father would prevent her because it would embarrass the rapist's employer, a member of the aristocracy. And he would certainly want to keep it quiet if someone in his social set raped a servant, even a beloved servant, at Downton.

Leslie Budewitz

Brilliant! Lord Gillingham told Mary when he first arrived that Green was new to him and he wasn't completely comfortable with him, which is why Mary felt she could ask him to fire the man. But your scenario would be ever so much more interesting.

Good lessons in not chickening out of choosing conflicts with serious consequences -- on all levels.

But I think we might get a surprise about Bates next season!

Hank Phillippi Ryan

Leslie! YOu KNOW something! (how can I get you to tell me without spoiling it for everyone else..hmm..see you at Malice?)

Linda Kupecek

I like your alternate scenario, Sandra. There were so many plot holes in that arc, despite the brilliant performance by the actress playing Anna. Bates not being more concerned or questioning of the bruise on Anna's face? She fell on the sink? Come on, Bates used to have an IQ! And the perfunctory questions by Upstairs about Anna's demeanour may have been true to the times, but were tremendously unsatisfying to me, given the bond forged between Anna and Mary. I mean, carting a corpse through a huge building deserves a little consideration, thank you! If I had done it, I would be expecting to inherit part of the Abbey!

I love Downton Abbey and look forward to the next season. So beautifully written and acted. And given how many of us pick at the plot points in great detail, an enduring and magnificent series. I would much rather discuss even the tiniest nuance in Downton Abbey than be forced to assess Criminal Minds or NCIS.

Hank Phillippi Ryan

Linda, isn't it hilarious how much we all love to discuss it?

Mary Ann Corrigan

Sandy, Fellowes needs you as a consultant to get rid of plot holes and create a conflict that can't be resolved by sweeping everything under the Persian rug (or in the case of the Turkish gentleman, rolled inside the rug). Fellowes doesn't force his characters to question their basic assumptions, but I guess he knows his British audience.

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